Re: Nick Cave (neskolko slovo lyubimom artiste)

From: Leonid Ulitsky (ulitsky_at_wiztec.co.il)
Date: Tue 21 Jul 1998 - 13:08:39 IDT


Ya dobavlyu paru slov s vashego pozvolenia.

> Nesomnenno,Peshernyj Kolya - osnovnoe sobytie iulya (ne sessia zhe),
>nezavisimo ot togo idete vy na concert ili net.
> tsena bileta otpugnet,vidimo,mnogih koleblushihsya.
> Poidet tot.kto znaet na chto idet.

Esli kogo otpugivaet tsena bileta, vsemi silami prizuvayu odumatsya !!!
Esli ne idti na eto, to na chto zhe togda idti ?

> Mezh tem Cave uzhe ne tot chto prezhde , tri poslednih alboma i sbornik
>vyveli ego chut' li ne v mainstream . Radio,MTV,prochaya bajda.

Eto vse vneshnee.

> Odnako do 93 goda on byl prakticheski undergroundnym muzikantom (po
>zapadnym ponyatiyam konechno,a ne po rossiiskim gde v underground ne
>igrali, vse bylo vser'ez).
>s 79 goda po 83 Cave rabotal s gruppami Boy's Next Door i bolee
>izvestnoj Birthday Party (Den' Rozhdenia) - esli kto slyshal - podelites'
>vpechatleniyami , pohozhe li eto na Bad Seeds.

V Kakoj-to stepeni da. Raznitsa vobshem-to "-Blixa + Barry Adamson".
Oba, BTW tozhe ochen' bolshie figury v indie-music, ya ochen' rekomenduju.

>v 83 godu vyhodit From Her To Eternity ,a takzhe First Born is Dead
>(Pervenez mertv).
> Na nih i v pomine net toj pop-muziki ,kotoruu delaet Kolya seichas.
>V odnoj stat'e skazano "kartezhnye ,katorzhnye i matrosskie pesni".
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Rodnaja kultura. Cave - Australiets, hotya davno uzhe zhivet v Londone.

> a dallshe vyshli Good Son (90) i Henry's Dream (92) - bez somneniya
>,vershina tvorchestva. Mrachnosti ne ubavilos',no otkuda -to vzyalsya
>nesravnennyj melodicheskii talant, bogatstvo (sochnost') ispolnenia
>-- kolichestvo instrumentov vozroslo .

"Good Son" - bezuslovno velikij album, "Henry Dream" schitaetsya neudachnym,
i ya s etim soglasen. NO "Good Son" uzhe so-o-vsem ne o katorzhnikah.
Naprotiv, on byl zapisan v Brazili, i pod vliyaniem toj samoj Brazilskoj
kultury.
Kto ne slyshal Cave ni razu, ili somnevaetsya idti li na conert, potomu chto
slyshal tolko "Wild Roses" - dostante "Good Son" i poslushaite "Foi Na Kruz"
Vse voprosy dolzhny otpast'. Esli vdrug ne otpadut - slushaite album do
kontsa.

>Tematika (naskolko ya ponyal ) v zelom ta zhe ,kakoj to angloyazychnyj
>folklor , brodyagi,katorzhniki .

Not in "Good Son".

>So vseh storon, superalbomy. Hotya uzhe i s elementami pop-muziki.
>The Weeping Song popala na MTV (vot ono,nachalo padenia)
>Parallelnyj single The Train Song togo zhe urovnya.
>
>93 god. Let Love In. Sovsem legkim etot albom ne nazovesh. po prezhnemu v
>v otdellnyh veshah barabannye pereponki pod ugrozoj. (Janglin' Jack).
>V ostallnyh - ta zhe melodichnost' vkupe s mrachnost'u.

Barabannye pereponki pod ugrozoj ves' album, esli slushat ehgo gromko, kak
i nado %^)
Album tozhe velikij, vne vsyakogo somnenia, i logicheskoe prodolzhenie
"Good Son"

>"Do you love m"e do sih por shturmuet MTV,radiostancii i sbornuki
>"Greatest Hist ,gde Cave sosedstvuet s Depeche MOde (ksati,oni pishutsya
>na odnoj firme Mute - Nemoj (On ne Molchalivyj ,on Nemoj) , tak zhe
>kak psevdo-bg sosedstvuet s Alenoj Apinoj na sbornike souz-19 (san videl.
>i slyshal)

Nu eto ne problemy Cave i ne problemy BG. BTW, posle "Murder Ballads"
ego vydvinula na "Best Male Singer" v MTV awards, a Nick poslal ih na -
poslav im otkrytoe pismo, gde pisal, chto on ne s kem ne sorevnuetsya, etc.
Eto, ya dumaju snimaet bolshinstvo voprosov

>Murder Ballads,o kotorom stolko govoryat , menya lichno razocharoval .
>edinstvennaya supervesh' - Henry Lee.
>Texty napomimaut ne Dostoevskogo ,a Strashilki pro Malenkogo Malchika.

Eto prosto pristeb, o chem vy, rebyata %^)

>sleduushii "The Boatsman' Call" ,naprotiv, izlishne vdumchiv,spokoen,
>eto rabota zrelogo artista ,a ne panka . Suda naprashivautsya melodii
>urovnya The Good Son ,no ih kak raz netu. "Where do we go but nowhere"
>citiruet muzikalno "Henry Lee"
>Takoe vpechatlenie ,chto Cave ispisalsya. (kak psevdo-bg).

Cheloveku ispolnilos 40 let. Album - posledstvie bolshoj, chistoj i
neudachnoj lubvi
k PJ Harvey.

>V tselom -skuchnovato. I ni malejshej agressii.

I ne nado. Eto prosto DRUGOE. Chem bolshe slushaesh - tem kruche.
Poprobuj zabyt' chto eto Cave, i slushat' nepredvzyato, ne ozhidaya
uslyshat agressiju i "Do You Love Me".

>No v lubom sluchae albom Cave'a - eto ne albom Take That, eto garantia
>kachestva. pust' dazhe skazka ushla ot nas.

Ne figa ne ushla %^) Mozhet stala drugoj nemnozhko. "Dvigatsya Dalshe"...

> Sudya po tem pesnyam,kotorye byli v Pitere , po menshej mere polovina
>concerta projdet na vysshem pilotazhe.
>
> izvinyaus' za gruz.
> G.
>

Dlya teh kto dochital dosuda, ya hochu dobavit.

Cave vsegda byl ochen "indie" artistom. Deistvitelno "undeground". Vo vsem
mire, ego
slushali "vrubayushiesya" ludi, no massovo on populyaren ne byl. Yarkij
primer - on uzhe 5
let ne byl v USA (det v etom godu nakonets), potomu chto emu ne
ponravilos', kak ego prinimali poslednij raz - on vystupal na bolshih
fetivayah, narod hotel chego-to
drugogo, Cave skazal "Fuck You", i bolshe v USA ne ezdil. Polozhenie
izmenilos' posle
"Murder Ballads" - Cave popal v top. I tolko v odnoj strane Nick Cave byl
MASSOVO populyaren i do etogo. Tolko v odnom meste "Good Son" dobilsya
commercheskogo uspeha. Tolko v odnoj strane "Let Love In" prodal bolshe,
chem "Voodoo Lounge" of "Rolling Stones" i na concert
"Bad Seeds" v 1993 prishlo bolshe narod chem na Bob Dylan. Vy pravy, eto v
Israele %^)

I sam tovarish Cave pro takoe otnoshenie znaet i tsenit. Do 93-go goda, oni
v israel ne
priezhali, t.k. printsipialnyj Blixa ne hotel ehat k narushietlyam prav
cheloveka.
No tselenapravlennaja rabota Nicka s nim prinesla svoi plody, i oni
priezhayut suda v 3-h raz.

SEE YA THERE !

Leonia

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