RE: Bednye Lyudi ?

From: Arkady Mazin (arkadym_at_hotmail.com)
Date: Tue 02 Nov 1999 - 16:46:33 IST


Ja vot tut podumal.. V kotoryj raz uzhe slushu chto-to tipa

ja pochti texts ne slushal, ne na
>KSP sidim :-) (c)Dubrick

Konechno, smailik v kontze stroki, no pochemu-to kazhetsja, chto chelovek
govorit vserjez. Mozhet, ja chego-to ne ponimaju, no zachem nuzhny teksty,
kotorye ne slushaesh'? Zachem vchera dva cheloveka muchalis' - odin dumal,
kak ego stihi primut, a drugoj ih staratel'no vypeval - esli narodu teksty
gluboko po barabanu? Na samom dele nashlis' ljudi - sami znaete, kto -
kotorye nad takim otnosheniem k teksty otkrovenno prikalyvajutsja, kladja na
muzyku tarabarshchinu. A chto, kakaja raznitza, kto eti teksty slushaet!? I
ved' zarabotali populjarnost', tem samym pljunuv v mordu vsem, kto esche
schitaet, chto pesnja - eto muzyka + slova. Dubrick, tebe ne obidno?

>From: Vitaly Dubrovner <vitaly@tdsoft.com>
>Reply-To: ru-rock-in-il@lists.neystadt.org
>To: ru-rock-in-il@lists.neystadt.org
>Subject: RE: Bednye Lyudi ?
>Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:45:26 +0200
>
>Texts - da, uzhe vsjo skazali. Hotja, do dissonansa delo osobo ne doshlo,
>ty
>preuvelichivaesh'. Hotja, esli chestno, ja pochti texts ne slushal, ne na
>KSP sidim :-)
>A s muzykal'nymi citatami - oni ne to, chtoby dostali, prosto, ne nado bylo
>jetot prikol povtorjat ' v kazhdoj pesne. Sami po sebe oni vsegda byli po
>povodu, po ritmu i ochen' v temu. No nel'zja takoe delat' v kazhdoj
>kompozicii.
>
>Po povodu stilja, naoborot, ja by skazal, chto solist igral ochen' v meru,
>ochen' vovremja, no obschaja nesygrannost' vkljuchala v sebja ne ochen'
>tochnoe raspredelenie objazannostej, t.e. kto kogda soliruet, i t.d. Paru
>raz bylo tak, chto gitarist zaglushal vokal, ne po gromkosti, a po
>izlishnej
>nasyschennosti akkordov (ne solo-gitarist, a vtoroj), no v celom, ja by
>skazal, chto chuvstvo stilja u nih prisutstvovalo :-)
>
>Voobschem, ja dumaju, chto pora zavjazyvat' s kritikoj, a dumat', kuda i
>kak
>by jetih rebjat eschjo vytaschit' :-))) Chtoby te, kto ne byl, poluchili by
>predstavlenie o predmete spora...
>A sam spor kak raz i govorit o tom, chto my uvideli nechto, o chjom stoit
>govorit' - jeto raduet. Vpolne vozmozhno, chto segodnjashnim lideram na
>tusovke pridjotsja chutok podvinut'sja :-)) Takie dela :-)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Arkady Mazin [SMTP:arkadym@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 5:28 PM
> > To: ru-rock-in-il@lists.neystadt.org
> > Subject: RE: Bednye Lyudi ?
> >
> > Ej, narod, a kto tam byl iz "Teena"???????
> > Ja ni odnu znakomuju mordu ne zametil, i ponjatija ne imeju o tom, chto
> > nechto podobnoe u nas planirovalos' :((( Chto by eto moglo byt'?
> > Kto-nibud'
> > etogo "korrespondenta" lichno znaet?
> >
> > Naschet samogo kontzerta. Tut kto-to do menja nechto pohozhee govoril..
> > Postojanno kazalos', chto teksty meshajut. Plohie teksty tjanut
>horoshuju
> > muzyku vniz. Mozhno, konechno, govorit', chto teksty - ne glavnoe. No
>oni,
> >
> > po krajnej mere, dolzhny dopolnjat' muzyku, ne vyzyvat' oschuschenie
> > dissonansa. Nemnozhko dostali mnogochislennye muzykal'nye tzitaty, po
> > povodu
> > i bez povoda.
> >
> > Solo-gitarist (kotoryj igral bol'shuju chast' kontzerta) ochen' horosh,
>no
> >
> > chuvstva stilja (nu, izvinite, chto ja vse o svoem) emu, IMHO, ne
>dostaet.
> > V
> > nekotoryh pesnjah on igral kak-to slishkom eklektichno, chto
>razdrazhalo.
> > Pritom, chto, s drugoj storony, igral dovol'no nestandartno. Esli on
> > najdet
> > zolotuju seredinu - budet sovsem v kajf. Mozhet, emu intuitzii ne
>dostaet
> > -
> > molodoj esche. Posmotrim na nih cherez n let.
> >
> > P.S. Horosho, chto ne zatjanuli programmu. Mozhet, im poka bol'she
>nechego
> >
> > igrat'? Nekotorye veschi i tak deistvitel'no byli ochen' syrye.
> >
> > P.P.S. Dlja teh, kto v kurse. Pomnite, u nih tam tretjim (kazhetsja)
> > nomerom
> > shla pesnja, koraja "ne posvjaschaetsja nikomu". Tak ja ponjal, komu ona
> > vse-taki posvjaschaetsja - "Vneshekonombanku". Potomu chto tam est'
>slova
> > "Ljuboj most mozhno razvesti".
> >
> >
> > >From: Vitaly Dubrovner <vitaly@tdsoft.com>
> > >Reply-To: ru-rock-in-il@lists.neystadt.org
> > >To: ru-rock-in-il@lists.neystadt.org
> > >Subject: RE: Bednye Lyudi ?
> > >Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 14:45:12 +0200
> > >
> > >Milyj Snu, u tebja eschjo budet vozmozhnost' pochitat' "Teenager" :-)))
> > >Zachem nam pereskazyvat' ? :-)
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Maxim Shklyar [SMTP:shklyar@email.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 2:48 AM
> > > > To: ru-rock-in-il@lists.neystadt.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Bednye Lyudi ?
> > > >
> > > > nu tak vy i nam rasskazhite, my tozhe porazvlekaemsja
> > > >
> > > > Vitaly Dubrovner wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Slyshali :-))
> > > > > Ja tebe skazhu bolee togo, poslal, i ne odnazhdy :-))))
> > > > > A kak Huligan gnal - prelest' :-0)
> > > > > Nu, vprochem, kak vsegda :-)))
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Krolik Jenia [SMTP:krolik2@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 2:35 PM
> > > > > > To: ru-rock-in-il@lists.neystadt.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Bednye Lyudi ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Horoshiy povod vnov pogovorit o "teenne". Kto nibud iz vas
> > slishal,
> > > > kakie
> > > > > > voprosi zadaval kor. teena vhera posle koncerta "Bednih l." ?
>Esli
> >
> > >net
> > > > ,
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > vy mnogo poteryali, tam bilo nad chem posmeyatsya. Delo doshlo
>do
> > > > togo,
> > > > > > chto
> > > > > > gytarist prosto poslal ego na... pryamim tekstom..!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Sedelnikov Ilya <ilyas@cs.bgu.ac.il>
> > > > > > To: Russian Rock In Israel (E-mail)
> > ><ru-rock-in-il@lists.neystadt.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 12:08 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Bednye Lyudi ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pravil'no Dubrik govorit.
> > > > > > > Vpolne professional'nye dzhazovye gitaristy, dazhe zavidno.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Naschet tekstov - po krajnej mere odin tekst byl Brodskogo
> > > > > > > ("Natjurmort") ... pochemu-to bez upominanija avtora :)
> > > > > > > To est' imja Brodskogo proskal'zyvalo, no tol'ko blizhe k
>kontsu
> > > > > > > prrredstavlenija i mel'kom.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Vse v obschem milo-horosho, tol'ko ne drajvno po bolshomu
> > schetu.
> > > > > > > To est' dazhe kogda byl drajv - to byl on iskljuchitel'no za
> > schet
> > > > > > > gitar - teksty byli sami po sebe.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Leonid Ulitsky wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi !
> > > > > > > > Kak vchera bylo ?
> > > > > > > > Leonia
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ---------------------
> > > > > > > > Leonid Ulitsky, ulitsky@wiztec.co.il
> > > > > > > > Phones : 053-406259(Mobile), 09-9526557 (W)
> > > > > > > > Homepage : http://ulitsky.freeservers.com/aboutme.html
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